Hanne Blank is a
Boston-based writer, editor, educator, and historian. The author of Big
Big Love: A Sourcebook on Sex for People of Size and Those Who Love Them
(Greenery Press, January 2000), she is the Editrix-in-chief of Zaftig!
Sex for the Well Rounded, the associate editor of Scarlet
Letters ©, A Journal of Femmerotica, and a sex columnist
who writes regularly for the Boston Phoenix. Her fiction, articles,
and essays have appeared in venues as diverse as Zenpride, Anything
That Moves, the Sonoma County Independent, Paramour,
and Bitch: Feminist Response to Pop Culture, as well as in anthologies,
including Best
Bisexual Erotica 2000, Best
Women's Erotica 2000, Sex
and Single Girls, and The Elvis Presley Reader. She
is presently pursuing a doctorate at Brandeis University, where she has
also served as an instructor. Having taught and lectured at a number of
colleges and universities, she's fond of aggressively combining sex, music,
writing, and academia with courses like "Music, Sex, and Culture," taught
at Tufts University in 1997, and lectures like "L'hermaphrodite de la
Voix" (Sex on the Edge Conference, Montreal, Quebec, 1998).
Heather Corinna: People always make me answer this, so I'm going
to inflict it upon you. How did you get started in this genre?
Hanne Blank: I'm not really sure. I've always written erotic stuff
for lovers of mine ever since I was about 17 or so. I used to be a hugely
prolific letter-writer, which I'm not as much any more, probably because
I have other outlets for writing, but I used to think nothing of writing
a 20-page (typed) letter to someone with whom I was very close, a combination
of diary, gazetteer, and various musings. Writing to and for lovers has
always been a big part of my writing as a whole; even now, most of the
stories I write I write at least in part with an audience of my lover(s)
in mind. I'm not entirely sure when or how the writing shifted from being
something I did in letters to being something where I was creating independent
stories, but it did.
HC: As both an editor and an author, what defines quality literary erotica
for you?
HB: Prose about sex and the interplay of erotic energies that is both
sensitive and sensible. I mean sensitive in that it is both sensory, having
a lot of appeal to the senses and sexually suggestive, as well as sensitive
in that it acknowledges (even silently) that sex is a source of great
vulnerability, anxiety, and fear. A piece can play on that vulnerability
and anxiety and fear, that's fine. Playing on that knife's edge can be
incredibly sexy. However, pieces that go out of their way to create those
states or mock people for feeling them are no longer erotic in my eyes.
The "sensible" part to me means many things, too, but mostly it means
that the piece has to be believable in some way, and most important, it
has to be emotionally believable. There has to be some sort of psychological
verisimilitude happening, and that has nothing to do with whether I like
the characters or identify with them – I still need to be able to know
how and what they think and feel if I'm going to find what they're going
through erotic. I want to be given a sense that even if I personally don't
react in such-and-such a way to such-and-such stimulus, someone else does,
and given some insight into how and why.
HC: How difficult is it to both create quality erotica and find quality
erotica for publishing?
HB: It's not hard for me to create it. I seem to have a knack for it.
It can be hard to find it, as a publisher/editor, but I suspect that's
due in equal parts to the fact that people have such different likes and
dislikes in erotic material, due to the fact that people have been trained
to accept "needless to say..." Penthouse Forum-style crap as being how
one is supposed to write about sex, and due simply to the fact that many
people assume that having the ability to fuck well automatically gives
one the ability to write well about fucking (hint: it doesn't).
HC: What facets of a piece take priority, whether you are creating it
or editing it, when you gauge the quality of the erotica? How important
are originality, character development, natural language, sexual accuracy
and believability, and plot?
HB: I always say that I am on the side of Beauty and Truth. If there's
no beauty in a piece, linguistically or narratively or in terms of its
characters or description, I'm not interested. It's one of the reasons
certain rather celebrated writers of erotic material just don't turn me
on at all – I find it hard to get aroused (intellectually or libidinally)
by something that doesn't intrigue me aesthetically. The rest is negotiable.
A piece can have no character development at all, no plot, no setting
to speak of, none of that, and be an excellent piece.
I draw really serious lines in the sand on only two issues. One is accuracy.
If an author decides to describe something and gets part of it fundamentally,
flat-out wrong – a recent example that comes to mind is a short story
I was sent that featured the male protagonist fucking his female partner's
clitoris – then that's an automatic KO.
That seems elementary, but sometimes it isn't. Even very experienced
erotica writers sometimes get themselves in over their heads when in unfamiliar
waters, and I've seen some embarrassing examples I won't cite out of collegiality.
Suffice to say there are reasons I don't write about things I haven't
done, unless I'm writing about things that are so obviously speculative
or science-fiction/fantasy oriented that no one (including me) is going
to know whether or not what I describe is accurate.
The other thing I really draw a sharp line about is hatred and exploitation.
This is not as easy to gauge as accuracy, but if I read a piece and it
seems to me to be hateful or exploitive, I'm not going to publish it.
I realize and acknowledge that hatred, and also the extremely sharp power
dynamics of exploitation, can be very erotically charged. I'd be the last
to say they didn't. But I don't find them, in general, to be arousing
in any way I find pleasurable.
HC: I agree with you, and I draw an editorial line there myself, however,
wouldn't you say that in the more mainstream pornographic market, you
see a lot of that?
HB: I think a lot of people use it to disempower the images and ideas
that arouse them, because they feel powerless in the face of their own
desires and lusts. So if you can hate or exploit that which causes you
to feel out of control, it gives you a way to control it back, and just
as thoroughly and brutally as you feel you are controlled by it.
The sad thing is that many people never learn that they do not have to
feel controlled or overruled by desire. People don't learn (because our
culture doesn't teach enough about sexual desire to teach this) that desire
is really pretty neutral and benign if you just sit and let it be what
it is. It is eminently possible to choose how to interact with your own
desire – in ways that may or may not ever include interacting with the
*object* of your desire. This goes hand in hand with the other major teaching
people in this culture don't get about desire: desire impels, it does
not compel.
Of course, we're really good, in Western culture, with calling our impulses
'irresistible' and letting them compel us rather than animate our own
choices to action. But let's face it, there's an enormous difference between
being a human with a hard-on and being a bull elephant in rut...and to
be honest, I think the difference is part of what makes sex so enjoyable
for us humans, rather than the fairly mechanistic act it seems to be for
many other animals who do it only when they are biologically compelled.
Choosing to think of sexual desire as a force that compels (forces) action
means that on some level, you're resigning yourself to living as a sexual
compulsive. How horrid that is, and how limiting – and how unnecessary.
HC: I know we have had writers whose work we have declined on that level
write in and accuse us of "censoring" a very real, albeit negative,
human emotion.
HB: I've gone round and round with myself on this one, thinking about
it in terms of censorship and muzzling, and the only conclusion to which
I've come is that there's a big difference between my saying something
shouldn't have been written or mustn't be published and my being unwilling
to have something that offends me published with my name attached to it
in some way. I've actually given some writers referrals to other editors
whom I felt would be more receptive of work I found hateful or exploitive,
if I thought the work was good in other ways, but I can't stomach the
notion of bringing it out myself. I have to sleep at night.
HC: Can you recall the first piece you read that set a quality example
of erotic literature for you?
HB: Oddly, there were two pieces that really set an example for me in
terms of writing and what is important to me in writing about the body
and sex. One was/is T.S. Eliot's "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock,"
with its horrible, desolate line "Do I dare to eat a peach?" – one of
the most effective lines in English poetry, and one of the most physically
arresting (albeit not pleasantly so) moments I've ever had in reading.
The other, for something completely different, is Tom Robbins' "Another
Roadside Attraction," and its joyous, goofy, detail-oriented approach
to sex and arousal. Anyone who can describe a clitoris as a "ladyfinger
cloud pump" gets my vote.
HC: As an editor, both for Zaftig and Scarlet Letters,
how many of the pieces you receive as submissions are accepted, and how
much editing to you generally have to do?
HB: It's changing. I used to accept more pieces, and more pieces that
needed more editing, but that's changing because my standards are higher
now – this has to do with my own maturity as well as the ongoing evolution
and maturity of Scarlet and the other publications I do – and because
I just don't have the kind of time I used to have to go through multiple
rounds of editing and revision with writers. I'd say that I accept one
out of every twenty or so submissions, on the whole.
HC: As an author, how do you see the current market for literary erotica
right now, and how does it compare, both in stringency of quality and
in income, to the harder porn market?
HB: There is no real market for literary erotica, in terms of making
any real money off writing it. That's just the way it is. Even inclusion
in one of the top-ranking anthologies, like Best American or Best
Women's Erotica series, will get you about $100-$200 at best. While
well-paying venues do pop up now and again, their existence is often pretty
fleeting. No one is in any danger of making their entire living this way
as an author, let's put it that way. That's one of the reasons that those
of us who do this sort of writing usually have other writing and editing
jobs – or just plain old day jobs.
That said, there are a lot more venues now for literary erotica (and
for traditional porn) than there used to be, largely thanks to the Web,
so aspiring writers in the genre have many more opportunities to become
published.
The market for traditional porn stories is better funded but also fairly
slim. Novels and novellas can be sold – there are a number of imprints,
like Black Lace, that are quite good. But at the same time, the industry
just lost one of its giants when Masquerade Books folded last year. I
suspect it means that things aren't going to change any time soon, that
smut books are still not earning enormous advances, that print publishers
still function on a shoestring profit margin, and that there are enough
people out there writing smut that most publishers don't have to pay much
to get enough to fill up their lists, and that book publishers who concentrate
on erotica and porn are going to continue to have a high risk of financial
failure.
As for porn markets, go to your favorite porn store and peruse the shelves.
Lawrence Schimel and Cecilia Tan are supposed to be bringing out an Erotica
Writers' Guide any time now. I expect that will be helpful when it
finally hits the streets.
HC: In terms of the difference in income between the literary erotica
market and the porn market (translation: no money to moderate money),
for the writer whose heart is in the literary, what do you see as the
benefits of writing for a nonpaying market?
HB: The biggest advantage is that no one tells you what to write! There's
no 50% rule; there's no editor breathing down your neck with "...each
2000 word story must have at least two episodes of anal or vaginal sex,
with emphasis on the size of the woman's breasts and buttocks..." sorts
of specifications. Let me tell you, it's pretty damned boring to write
smut to spec if they're not your specs, but that's often what you have
to do to get paid to write smut at all. If you don't care about getting
paid for it, you have much more freedom, both erotically and as a craftsperson.
Honestly, if you're writing literary erotica, you're doing it because
you love to write literary erotica. There's no other reason to bother.
HC: Is writing for either market (porn or erotica) a stigma when it comes
to getting published in non-adult venues? I know when I started writing,
I got a lot of static for using sex in my pieces, especially if it wasn't
gratuitous, or if it was in more serious pieces, and even more for simply
being known as a sexuality author.
HB: Definitely. The biggest assumption people will make is that you can't
possibly know how to write anything else. I recommend that if you decide
to write sexually explicit ANYTHING, fiction or nonfiction, and you want
to be a working writer, you concentrate hard on building up a non-sexually
explicit clips file for a while. You can sell yourself on the strength
of your non-sexual clips until you are established enough that it is okay
for people to also know that you write sexually explicit stuff. Otherwise,
it is damned difficult to get people to entertain the notion that you
are capable of doing anything else.
HC: What changes have you seen in the general literary marketplace dealing
with sex and erotica since you started working in the genre?
HB: I think the big trend emerging is the formation of subgenres, both
in the periodical/magazine market and in anthologies and books. There
are so many topic-specific anthologies now – themes like "Sex on the Beach"
or "Boys will be Girls" or "Lost Tales from PeeWee's Playhouse" or whatever
– that it is now almost surprising to find a non-themed anthology. Even
some of the "Best of" anthologies are now going themed.
HC: Do you see the general fiction and nonfiction markets still keeping
their distance, or embracing sex more...or less? How will the slow state
of the current market affect us as sexuality authors, in your opinion?
HB: I think each genre is different. Romance novels, for instance, have
changed from the intense romance but discreet sex they used to have to
having considerably more explicit sexual content, even if it's still mild
and short by porn standards. But it's changed. On the other hand, the
sort of "serious lit" crowd, the Granta/Kenyon Review/New
Yorker sort of stuff, still shies away from sex most of the time unless
it's done in this sort of deeply conflicted Woody Allen/Philip Roth way
that reads like it was scraped off the underside of a psychiatrist's couch
on Central Park West. At the same time, you're likely to find much more
sexually explicit content in mainstream NYT Bestseller type novels
– not that it's necessarily great writing about sex.
I tend not to worry too much about what the market wants. I write what
I write.
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Heather
Corinna is the founder, editor and publisher of Scarlet
Letters: The Journal of Femmerotica and the teen sex education
resources Pink Slip
and Boyfriend!. Her work in sexuality and erotica has appeared in numerous
venues, including Maxi, Orato, LeisureSuit.Net, Siren
and CleanSheets. She has been applauded in the media at Playboy
Online, AVN, the San Francisco Weekly, the Boston Phoenix,
EstroClick, The Minneapolis City Pages, Hip Mama,
and other publications. She was an honored speaker on freedom of speech
and erotica with Marianna Beck for the Illinois Library Association last
year, and her work can currently be seen in the print anthologies The
Adventures of Food, Viscera, and the upcoming Aqua Erotica.
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